• [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix

    From tracker1@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Oct 6 06:24:24 2022
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by tracker1:
    [Creating the Synchronet Directory]

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to tracker1 on Thu Oct 6 12:12:00 2022
    tracker1 wrote to wiki.synchro.net <=-

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by tracker1:
    [Creating the Synchronet Directory]

    An improvement, perhaps, but still... my thinking is that somebody who doesn't (already) know they can't create /sbbs without being root isn't
    going to know how to do the "run as root" that you added. They don't
    know *how* to run that command as root.

    Would it be better to first instruct them to "su" to root, or to preface
    the commands with "sudo"? The example prompts ('$') might need to be
    changed to '#' also...? Just my (unrequested) input. ;-)



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Gamgee on Thu Oct 6 14:41:59 2022
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix
    By: Gamgee to tracker1 on Thu Oct 06 2022 02:12 pm

    tracker1 wrote to wiki.synchro.net <=-

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by tracker1:
    [Creating the Synchronet Directory]

    An improvement, perhaps, but still... my thinking is that somebody who doesn't (already) know they can't create /sbbs without being root isn't going to know how to do the "run as root" that you added. They don't
    know *how* to run that command as root.

    Would it be better to first instruct them to "su" to root, or to preface
    the commands with "sudo"? The example prompts ('$') might need to be changed to '#' also...? Just my (unrequested) input. ;-)

    The wiki is editable by just about anyone. Go for it!
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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Oct 6 16:03:26 2022
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by Dan Clough:
    [Creating the Synchronet Directory]

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Digital Man on Thu Oct 6 18:23:43 2022
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix
    By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Thu Oct 06 2022 04:41 pm

    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix

    An improvement, perhaps, but still... my thinking is that somebody who doesn't (already) know they can't create /sbbs without being root isn't going to know how to do the "run as root" that you added. They don't know *how* to run that command as root.

    Would it be better to first instruct them to "su" to root, or to preface the commands with "sudo"? The example prompts ('$') might need to be changed to '#' also...? Just my (unrequested) input. ;-)

    The wiki is editable by just about anyone. Go for it!

    Done! :-)

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Gamgee on Fri Oct 7 00:36:37 2022
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix
    By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Thu Oct 06 2022 20:23:43

    An improvement, perhaps, but still... my thinking is that somebody who doesn't (already) know they can't create /sbbs without being root isn't going to know how to do the "run as root" that you added. They don't know *how* to run that command as root.

    You're making assumptions that the sbbs account that was setup (as you say in the wiki article, let's assume), then they may not have given the user sudo permissions, so are you going to mention then also? Then...if they didn't know how to run something as root, how would they have created the account in the first place?

    Then again, I think someone setting up a bulletin board for the first time is likely to pick the OS they know. I don't most people who have only ever used Windows are going to say, "Ah, Synchronet, I think I'll put that on an OS I know nothing about".

    Well, there maybe one or two I could name, but in general, I think you have to assume people know what they're doing.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nelgin on Fri Oct 7 05:33:00 2022
    Nelgin wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix
    By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Thu Oct 06 2022 20:23:43

    An improvement, perhaps, but still... my thinking is that somebody who doesn't (already) know they can't create /sbbs without being root isn't going to know how to do the "run as root" that you added. They don't know *how* to run that command as root.

    You're making assumptions that the sbbs account that was setup
    (as you say in the wiki article, let's assume), then they may not
    have given the user sudo permissions, so are you going to mention
    then also? Then...if they didn't know how to run something as
    root, how would they have created the account in the first place?

    No argument with any of that... I think on many n00b-friendly distros nowadays, you can make a user account with a GUI applet that only
    requires your own password to authenticate, so perhaps they made the
    'sbbs' user that way. I know, that's another assumption. It's nearly impossible to cover all possible scenarios for this, without a
    ridiculously long instruction document.

    Then again, I think someone setting up a bulletin board for the
    first time is likely to pick the OS they know. I don't most
    people who have only ever used Windows are going to say, "Ah,
    Synchronet, I think I'll put that on an OS I know nothing about".

    Certainly. I think the edit(s) have improved the explanation, though,
    and that was the goal. It's better than it was. Maybe I'll have
    another go at it if I come across any leftover motivation... ;-)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Gamgee on Fri Oct 7 08:38:25 2022
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix
    By: Gamgee to Nelgin on Fri Oct 07 2022 07:33 am

    Nelgin wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:nix
    By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Thu Oct 06 2022 20:23:43

    An improvement, perhaps, but still... my thinking is that somebody who doesn't (already) know they can't create /sbbs without being root isn't going to know how to do the "run as root" that you added. They don't know *how* to run that command as root.

    You're making assumptions that the sbbs account that was setup
    (as you say in the wiki article, let's assume), then they may not
    have given the user sudo permissions, so are you going to mention
    then also? Then...if they didn't know how to run something as
    root, how would they have created the account in the first place?

    No argument with any of that... I think on many n00b-friendly distros nowadays, you can make a user account with a GUI applet that only
    requires your own password to authenticate, so perhaps they made the
    'sbbs' user that way. I know, that's another assumption. It's nearly impossible to cover all possible scenarios for this, without a
    ridiculously long instruction document.

    Then again, I think someone setting up a bulletin board for the
    first time is likely to pick the OS they know. I don't most
    people who have only ever used Windows are going to say, "Ah, Synchronet, I think I'll put that on an OS I know nothing about".

    Certainly. I think the edit(s) have improved the explanation, though,
    and that was the goal. It's better than it was. Maybe I'll have
    another go at it if I come across any leftover motivation... ;-)

    And try to remember when editing the wiki: Linux is not the only *nix supported by Synchronet. What's true for Linux may not be true for other Unix-like OSes.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Digital Man on Fri Oct 7 12:35:00 2022
    Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Then again, I think someone setting up a bulletin board for the
    first time is likely to pick the OS they know. I don't most
    people who have only ever used Windows are going to say, "Ah, Synchronet, I think I'll put that on an OS I know nothing about".

    Certainly. I think the edit(s) have improved the explanation, though,
    and that was the goal. It's better than it was. Maybe I'll have
    another go at it if I come across any leftover motivation... ;-)

    And try to remember when editing the wiki: Linux is not the only
    *nix supported by Synchronet. What's true for Linux may not be
    true for other Unix-like OSes.

    Good point, and I'll do that.



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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Oct 13 11:42:48 2022
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by digital man:
    [Using Git] Mention the mirrors to the install/GNUmakefile

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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Thu Oct 13 13:57:02 2022
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by digital man:
    [Creating the Synchronet Directory] More/better examples using the Run-as user's home directory for install

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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Jan 25 13:07:35 2023
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by digital man:
    Include example of how to add run-as user (sbbs) to sudo group on Linux

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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Fri Jan 27 00:00:46 2023
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:nix by digital man:
    [Using Git] Update post-install directory example to match reality (and sbbs:sbbs user)

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