• Re: Last few callers...

    From Digital Man@VERT to Al DeRosa on Sun Oct 2 18:28:28 2022
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Sun Oct 02 2022 07:14 pm

    On 02 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...

    I think you're refering to the logonlist module. It's disabled by setting show_logon_list=false in the [logon] section of modopts.ini. https://wiki.synchro.net/module:logon

    What did you try?

    I did that, it still shows up.. I am running 3.18 though.. Thanks for the help...

    Are you sure? The logon.js change in question was made Oct-30-2019, almost a year before v3.18b was released.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to Digital Man on Mon Oct 3 15:59:00 2022
    On 02 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...


    Are you sure? The logon.js change in question was made Oct-30-2019,
    almost a year before v3.18b was released.
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    That's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019.. I think I am just going to upgrade to the latest version. I don't like staying behind on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks for the help DM, I do appreciate it...

    AL

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al DeRosa on Mon Oct 3 14:00:10 2022
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Oct 03 2022 05:59 pm

    On 02 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...


    Are you sure? The logon.js change in question was made Oct-30-2019, almost a year before v3.18b was released.
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    That's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019..

    v3.17b was released on Jan-1-2019.

    I think I
    am just going to upgrade to the latest version. I don't like staying behind on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks for the help DM, I do appreciate it...

    Sounds like the right move to me.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to Digital Man on Mon Oct 3 17:42:42 2022
    On 03 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...
    That's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019..

    v3.17b was released on Jan-1-2019.



    on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks for the DM, I do appreciate it...

    Sounds like the right move to me.

    Yea, I think so too.. LOL Let me ask you, if I do a full clean install with the latest files. What files can I copy from my old install to keep my user list and doors list, like I said this is a DoorParty type server (which uses the Door Party front end of RLOGIN to the menu) if I can do that I think it might be a lot better off, I did an upgrade to 3.18b last year and now I am seeing it wasn't a complete upgrade but a half assed one.. Jeez.. THanks again for the help..

    Al

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al DeRosa on Tue Oct 4 09:07:03 2022
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Mon Oct 03 2022 07:42 pm

    On 03 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...
    That's probably the reason the version I am running is 1/1/2019..

    v3.17b was released on Jan-1-2019.



    on software and this one I have stayed behind to long... Thanks for the DM, I do appreciate it...

    Sounds like the right move to me.

    Yea, I think so too.. LOL Let me ask you, if I do a full clean install with the latest files. What files can I copy from my old install to keep my user list and doors list,

    Read http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#migration

    like I said this is a DoorParty type server (which uses
    the Door Party front end of RLOGIN to the menu) if I can do that I think it might be a lot better off, I did an upgrade to 3.18b last year and now I am seeing it wasn't a complete upgrade but a half assed one.. Jeez.. THanks again for the help..

    I work hard to make the upgrade path smooth (no "full clean [re]install" should ever be needed). Just make sure you're running 'jsexec update' after each update/upgrade.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to Digital Man on Tue Oct 4 16:24:44 2022
    On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...


    Read http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#migration

    Thanks DM! Reading it as soon as I finish this message..



    I work hard to make the upgrade path smooth (no "full clean [re]install" should ever be needed). Just make sure you're running 'jsexec update' after each update/upgrade.
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    I know, that is why I was shocked when I saw that my modopts.ini was outdated.. I think the way I have been doing them is wrong, Actually, I haven't done one on this server since about a year and half ago. Why change what isn't broken?!? I have been wanting to rebuild this machine anyway. I am going to make sure everything is good and do it in the background.. Thanks again for all the help it means a lot..

    Al

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al DeRosa on Tue Oct 4 13:30:19 2022
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Tue Oct 04 2022 06:24 pm

    On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...


    Read http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:misc#migration

    Thanks DM! Reading it as soon as I finish this message..



    I work hard to make the upgrade path smooth (no "full clean [re]install" should ever be needed). Just make sure you're running 'jsexec update' after each update/upgrade.
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    I know, that is why I was shocked when I saw that my modopts.ini was outdated..

    modopts.ini is not automatically updated, nor does it need to be. You just add things to your modopts.ini when you need/want them (e.g. based on instructions from recommendations or documentation).

    I think the way I have been doing them is wrong

    What way is that?

    Actually, I
    haven't done one on this server since about a year and half ago. Why change what isn't broken?!? I have been wanting to rebuild this machine anyway. I am going to make sure everything is good and do it in the background.. Thanks again for all the help it means a lot..

    No problem.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Oct 5 16:33:24 2022
    On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...


    modopts.ini is not automatically updated, nor does it need to be. You
    just add things to your modopts.ini when you need/want them (e.g. based
    on instructions from recommendations or documentation).


    I have never updated modopts.ini, but it was missing the section of last_user listing.. It only had the question on whether or not to show it.


    I think the way I have been doing them is wrong

    What way is that?

    I have been updating exec via the separate update files, sbb_dev.zip, run.zip, ctrl etc. then running jsexec.js update.. Last night I did a full re-install and read the Wiki of what directories to copy over, installed my door Server Rlogin package in the mods directory and everything worked like a charm.. Just gotta finish updating the VM it resides in and it will be ready to go online in place of my current one..

    THank you again for all the help.. The more I screw around with the internal workings of it, I am learning more about it..

    Al

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al DeRosa on Wed Oct 5 14:50:22 2022
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Wed Oct 05 2022 06:33 pm

    On 04 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...


    modopts.ini is not automatically updated, nor does it need to be. You just add things to your modopts.ini when you need/want them (e.g. based on instructions from recommendations or documentation).


    I have never updated modopts.ini, but it was missing the section of last_user listing.. It only had the question on whether or not to show it.


    I think the way I have been doing them is wrong

    What way is that?

    I have been updating exec via the separate update files, sbb_dev.zip, run.zip, ctrl etc. then running jsexec.js update..

    That sounds like the correct way. Approximately what is described at http://wiki.synchro.net/install:dev

    Last night I did a full
    re-install and read the Wiki of what directories to copy over, installed my door Server Rlogin package in the mods directory and everything worked like a charm.. Just gotta finish updating the VM it resides in and it will be ready to go online in place of my current one..

    THank you again for all the help.. The more I screw around with the internal workings of it, I am learning more about it..

    Cool.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Oct 6 16:34:31 2022
    On 05 Oct 2022, Digital Man said the following...

    Last night I did a full
    re-install and read the Wiki of what directories to copy over, installe door Server Rlogin package in the mods directory and everything worked a charm.. Just gotta finish updating the VM it resides in and it will b ready to go online in place of my current one..

    THank you again for all the help.. The more I screw around with the int workings of it, I am learning more about it..

    Cool.
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    Thanks again Rob, everything is in fact better then before. Everything is working as described and now that I have a new set up, I can rebuild my directories and instead of having 11 directories of doors, break it down into a more manageable 5 or 6.. With just about 200 doors online it gets crazy.. LOL

    Al

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Al DeRosa on Thu Oct 6 21:02:42 2022
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Thu Oct 06 2022 06:34 pm

    Thanks again Rob, everything is in fact better then before. Everything is working as described and now that I have a new set up, I can rebuild my directories and instead of having 11 directories of doors, break it down into a more manageable 5 or 6.. With just about 200 doors online it gets crazy.. LOL

    people get stupid and install hundreds of doors.

    users don't want that. i dont know why people can't realize that.
    seth robinson said this a long time ago: just have a few good ones.
    he even said he had a shortcut to lord on his main menu on his bbs.

    you guys are giving users a facefull of ugly text in mixed colors and it makes them want to take off.

    have the good ones. then you might have user interaction and that means fun.

    put yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and see how many you have, put it in another menu selection.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to MRO on Fri Oct 7 16:32:35 2022
    On 06 Oct 2022, MRO said the following...


    put yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and see how many you have, put it in another menu selection.
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    I do put myself in their shoes, that is why I have a menu with like 6 selections of directories, Multi Player, Single Player, Card Games, Gambling Games, Adult games.
    What is in there is what counts, it's not dick waving as you put it to have a Door Server with a lot of games for people if they are into it. It's gives users a choice to play or use what they want. I don't force anyone to call my system's, if they don't like what they see, they don't call. No loss to me, I will still enjoy doing what I am doing with my systems. To me that is all that matters..

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Al DeRosa on Fri Oct 7 16:33:56 2022
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to MRO on Fri Oct 07 2022 06:32 pm

    On 06 Oct 2022, MRO said the following...


    put yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and see how many you have, put it in another menu selection.
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    I do put myself in their shoes, that is why I have a menu with like 6 selections of directories, Multi Player, Single Player, Card Games, Gambling Games, Adult games.
    What is in there is what counts, it's not dick waving as you put it to have a Door Server with a lot of games for people if they are into it. It's gives users a choice to play or use what they want. I don't force anyone to call my system's, if they don't like what they see, they don't call. No loss to

    you totally missed my point. and like i said, the author of probably the most popular doorgame said it too.

    me, I will still enjoy doing what I am doing with my systems. To me that is all that matters..

    yes, but aren't we supposed to be running systems for users and not ourselves?

    that's where sysops lost their way.

    it's fine though, do it how you want to do it. i dont care.

    i'm not picking on you specifically, there's other sysops with shitloads of doorgames. but you certainly are in that mindset.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to MRO on Fri Oct 7 20:20:34 2022
    On 07 Oct 2022, MRO said the following...

    you totally missed my point. and like i said, the author of probably the most popular doorgame said it too.


    yes, but aren't we supposed to be running systems for users and not ourselves?

    that's where sysops lost their way.

    it's fine though, do it how you want to do it. i dont care.

    i'm not picking on you specifically, there's other sysops with shitloads of doorgames. but you certainly are in that mindset.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to MRO on Fri Oct 7 20:35:49 2022
    My apologies for my last response.. There was no need for it. I understand what you are saying, I just offer as much as I can to my users.. As for my comment that as long as it makes me happy thats all that matters, yes we are doing this for the users at least that is what I did for the 12 years I ran a board from the 80's to the 90's, when I got back into it in 2018 I said I was doing it for me now to enjoy it more then my previous time. I ran the largest Commodore BBS Network/Support group for Image BBS for just about 9 years, and it was all work and no play.. Now I am doing it for me thus my answer.. We're good.. Again my apologies for my short snide comment..

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  • From dragon@VERT/IPTIA to MRO on Sat Oct 8 09:24:57 2022
    On 10/7/2022 00:02, MRO wrote:
    Re: Re: Last few callers...
    By: Al DeRosa to Digital Man on Thu Oct 06 2022 06:34 pm

    > Thanks again Rob, everything is in fact better then before. Everything is
    > working as described and now that I have a new set up, I can rebuild my
    > directories and instead of having 11 directories of doors, break it down
    > into a more manageable 5 or 6.. With just about 200 doors online it gets
    > crazy.. LOL

    people get stupid and install hundreds of doors.

    users don't want that. i dont know why people can't realize that.
    seth robinson said this a long time ago: just have a few good ones.
    he even said he had a shortcut to lord on his main menu on his bbs.

    you guys are giving users a facefull of ugly text in mixed colors and it makes them want to take off.

    have the good ones. then you might have user interaction and that means fun.

    put yourself in their shoes. if you want to do some dick waving and see how many you have, put it in another menu selection.
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