• Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface

    From Dave@VERT/BOFHNET to All on Sun Jul 24 12:31:54 2022
    Hi All,
    I've just started a new BBS - my first interaction with a BBS since the 90s, so I'm rusty.
    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines across it.
    I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is causing it. It should be visible at https://bofhnet.au
    Seems to be consistent across browsers. It's only the default image. Once you connect via Telnet, it appears to display correctly.

    Appreciate any hints I can get.
    Cheers!

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dave on Sun Jul 24 07:38:00 2022
    Dave wrote to All <=-

    Hi All,
    I've just started a new BBS - my first interaction with a BBS
    since the 90s, so I'm rusty.
    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines
    across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is
    causing it. It should be visible at https://bofhnet.au
    Seems to be consistent across browsers. It's only the default
    image. Once you connect via Telnet, it appears to display
    correctly.

    Appreciate any hints I can get.

    I don't use the web interface, so can't say for sure, but that sure
    looks like a "wrapping" issue of some kind to me.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dave on Sun Jul 24 06:06:00 2022
    Dave wrote to All <=-

    Appreciate any hints I can get.
    Cheers!
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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Gamgee on Sun Jul 24 11:44:47 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Gamgee to Dave on Sun Jul 24 2022 09:38 am

    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines
    across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is

    Save the splash screen in 79 rows, not 80. That should fix it.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Gamgee on Sun Jul 24 11:54:15 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Gamgee to Dave on Sun Jul 24 2022 09:38 am

    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines
    across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is

    I just left you a message to save in 79 rows instead of 80, opps, I meant to say collumms. 79x24 should work nicely.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 24 11:27:00 2022
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dave <=-

    Appreciate any hints I can get.
    - Synchronet - BOFHNet BBS

    Best of luck to you, guessing the BOFH is the old Bastard
    Operator From Hell usenet series that came out in the 1990s?

    Hahaha, love the BOFH. I actually have a cron job on a Linux box that
    emails me a quote each morning using the 'fortunes' program, and
    sometimes they are "BOFH quotes". Still makes me laugh. :-)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dave on Sun Jul 24 12:36:56 2022
    Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Dave to All on Sun Jul 24 2022 02:31 pm

    Hi All,
    I've just started a new BBS - my first interaction with a BBS since the 90s, so I'm rusty.
    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines across it.
    I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is causing it. It should be visible at https://bofhnet.au
    Seems to be consistent across browsers. It's only the default image. Once you connect via Telnet, it appears to display correctly.

    Sounds/looks like your text/synch.ans file has extra extracters. Try re-downloading/overwriting that file (i.e. from https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/blob/master/text/synch.ans)
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  • From Dave@VERT/BOFHNET to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jul 25 03:22:05 2022
    Best of luck to you, guessing the BOFH is the old Bastard Operator From Hell usenet series that came out in the 1990s?

    ... Overtly resist change
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    Indeed. I've been a fan of the Bastard for a long time. Simon helped me survive the hell desk and then given me plenty of great... problem solving... ideas as a sysadmin. It seems appropriate to help keep the spirit alive.

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  • From Dave@VERT/BOFHNET to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 03:23:09 2022
    I just left you a message to save in 79 rows instead of 80, opps, I meant to say collumms. 79x24 should work nicely.

    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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    Thank you, I shall look into this when I've got a moment.

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  • From Dave@VERT/BOFHNET to Gamgee on Mon Jul 25 03:32:33 2022
    Hahaha, love the BOFH. I actually have a cron job on a Linux box that
    emails me a quote each morning using the 'fortunes' program, and
    sometimes they are "BOFH quotes". Still makes me laugh. :-)

    ... If it walks out of your refrigerator, let it go.
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    That's awesome. I used to have something similar years ago. These days I'm so swamped with "daily" emails that I rarely read them.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jul 24 14:39:00 2022
    DesotoFireflite wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Gamgee to Dave on Sun Jul 24 2022 09:38 am

    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines
    across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is

    I just left you a message to save in 79 rows instead of 80, opps,
    I meant to say collumms. 79x24 should work nicely.

    Well.... I'm not the one with the problem, but hopefully "Dave" sees
    your response.



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jul 24 14:22:22 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: DesotoFireflite to Gamgee on Sun Jul 24 2022 01:54 pm

    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Gamgee to Dave on Sun Jul 24 2022 09:38 am

    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines
    across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is

    I just left you a message to save in 79 rows instead of 80, opps, I meant to say collumms. 79x24 should work nicely.

    The stock screen works fine and should not require a sysop to re-save it with different dimensions. There's a different issue at hand here.
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  • From Dave@VERT/BOFHNET to Digital Man on Mon Jul 25 07:06:34 2022
    Sounds/looks like your text/synch.ans file has extra extracters. Try re-downloading/overwriting that file (i.e. from https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/blob/master/text/synch.ans)
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    digital man (rob)

    Thanks digital man,
    I think we're on the right track. I've tried a couple of combinations of methods to see what breaks.
    If I grab the file and place it in situ, it's exactly the same. If I try to take the contents of the file and dump them in, I get a wall of text characters.

    If I open up the file itself with something like "ee" (I'm on FreeBSD), I can see "^[" appearing frequently before anywhere that the file in the link above starts with "[" so it results in "^[[whatever"

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Gamgee on Sun Jul 24 18:41:20 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Gamgee to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jul 24 2022 04:39 pm

    Well.... I'm not the one with the problem, but hopefully "Dave" sees
    your response.

    Opps, sorry about that. I was thinking this as I replied, but I went with it just the same.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Digital Man on Sun Jul 24 18:44:53 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jul 24 2022 04:22 pm

    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: DesotoFireflite to Gamgee on Sun Jul 24 2022 01:54 pm

    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Gamgee to Dave on Sun Jul 24 2022 09:38 am

    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines Da>>> across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is

    I just left you a message to save in 79 rows instead of 80, opps, I
    meant to say collumms. 79x24 should work nicely.

    The stock screen works fine and should not require a sysop to re-save it with different dimensions. There's a different issue at hand here.

    OK, no problem, was just trying to help. When I logged into his website, it dindn't look like the stock synch.ans, so I was assuming he made his own ans file, that's why I suggested he resize it. I saw your answer later, and that made more sense.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jul 24 14:20:03 2022
    On 7/24/22 10:54, DesotoFireflite wrote:
    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines
    across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is

    I just left you a message to save in 79 rows instead of 80, opps, I
    meant to say collumms. 79x24 should work nicely.

    Should be able to save 80-columns, just need to test what you're
    doing... can't use a character in the very bottom-right position though,
    I cheated by putting a clear screen with a different background in mine...

    https://ecweb.roughneckbbs.com/

    IIRC, I was using PabloDraw, but Moebius should work to.
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  • From Dave@VERT/BOFHNET to Tracker1 on Mon Jul 25 15:25:03 2022
    I've replaced the image with a crappy jpg to ansi conversion of a logo that I've mostly borrowed. It's done effectively the same thing at 80 wide.
    I did try a conversion at 79 columns, but that just caused the whole thing to skew.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Tracker1 on Mon Jul 25 06:22:55 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Tracker1 to DesotoFireflite on Sun Jul 24 2022 04:20 pm

    On 7/24/22 10:54, DesotoFireflite wrote:
    I've got the web interface setup through web4, but the default
    image in the ftelnet box is broken up with black horizontal lines
    across it. I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what is

    I just left you a message to save in 79 rows instead of 80, opps, I
    meant to say collumms. 79x24 should work nicely.

    Should be able to save 80-columns, just need to test what you're
    doing... can't use a character in the very bottom-right position though, I cheated by putting a clear screen with a different background in mine...

    I realize that it should work in 80 columns, but I've seen
    some that it won't. I checked out his website, and indeed it was displaying weardly, but it didn't seem to be the stock synch.ans that's setup for webv4, so that's why I reccomended him to try resaving it in 79 columns just to check it out. That was a workable solution for a friend of mine running webv4 in michigan. I run two splash screens in my webv4, one for the main bbs, and a different one for my game server. It took some doing, but I got it working. I just wish I could figure a way to save the ftelnet.js in the mods directory of webv4, but I can't, so I had to settle for saving the orig ftelnet.js in the webv4 in the libs directory as a different name, so I can refer back to it.

    https://ecweb.roughneckbbs.com/

    IIRC, I was using PabloDraw, but Moebius should work to.

    LOL, i'm still using TheDraw. The only time I use PabloDraw is when I'm making *.MSG files. I've got Moebius loaded on the system, but I really don't like using it.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 12:29:14 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: DesotoFireflite to Tracker1 on Mon Jul 25 2022 08:22 am

    https://ecweb.roughneckbbs.com/

    IIRC, I was using PabloDraw, but Moebius should work to.

    LOL, i'm still using TheDraw. The only time I use PabloDraw is when I'm making *.MSG files. I've got Moebius loaded on the system, but I really don't like using it.


    i prefer thedraw and aciddraw. they are superior.
    you dont even need pablo for .msg files. just use the conversion utility.

    also pablo puts that stupid ass sauce into everything.
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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to MRO on Mon Jul 25 14:53:46 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 2022 02:29 pm

    LOL, i'm still using TheDraw. The only time I use PabloDraw is when
    I'm making *.MSG files. I've got Moebius loaded on the system, but I
    really don't like using it.

    i prefer thedraw and aciddraw. they are superior.

    I've never tried aciddraw, as I've been perfectly happy with TheDraw, except for *.MSG files, it will do just about everything I need

    you dont even need pablo for .msg files. just use the conversion utility.

    I love the conversion program, but pablodraw let's me display them real easy. besides, I've modded most of my menus with special fonts, so I end up editing them with a plain text file, as PabloDraw strips out most of the special codes used for the special fonts for some reason.

    also pablo puts that stupid ass sauce into everything.

    Yeah, that sucks, but it's easy to go in and delete the sauce info, and since I have to inser some of the special font codes, it's not an issue anymore. I prob should go back to all ans/asc files, and save myself a lot of headaches..lol

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 16:21:50 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: DesotoFireflite to MRO on Mon Jul 25 2022 04:53 pm

    I love the conversion program, but pablodraw let's me display them real easy. besides, I've modded most of my menus with special fonts, so I end up editing them with a plain text file, as PabloDraw strips out most of the special codes used for the special fonts for some reason.

    also pablo puts that stupid ass sauce into everything.

    Yeah, that sucks, but it's easy to go in and delete the sauce info, and since I have to inser some of the special font codes, it's not an issue anymore. I prob should go back to all ans/asc files, and save myself a lot of headaches..lol


    i've found those fonts to be annoying.
    i just called your bbs and for some reason i was detected as mono using syncterm.

    you also might want to give your users a quick way to get through all that logon stuff you have.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Digital Man on Mon Jul 25 15:10:41 2022
    On 7/24/22 14:36, Digital Man wrote:

    Sounds/looks like your text/synch.ans file has extra extracters.
    Try re-downloading/overwriting that file (i.e. from https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/blob/master/text/synch.ans)

    May well have checked out from Git, but the line ending options are
    wrong, and/or not as-is for the checkout... Just a thought.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 15:16:39 2022
    On 7/25/22 05:22, DesotoFireflite wrote:
    IIRC, I was using PabloDraw, but Moebius should work to.

    LOL, i'm still using TheDraw. The only time I use PabloDraw is when
    I'm making *.MSG files. I've got Moebius loaded on the system, but I
    really don't like using it.

    Yeah, I don't even know if/where my reg'd copy of TheDraw went over the years... haven't touched it in forever. I remember, I used to often
    wind up saving, then tweaking the final output a bit to place the cursor exactly where I want it... usually saving block mode 79x23 for full
    screen... since so many display programs handled the end of line and
    wrapping slightly differently.
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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to MRO on Tue Jul 26 05:01:23 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 2022 06:21 pm

    i've found those fonts to be annoying.
    i just called your bbs and for some reason i was detected as mono using syncterm.

    That's strange. That's not the norm, give it another try. I've seen it before, but very sporatic. Prob just a bad connection or heavy traffic on the server.

    you also might want to give your users a quick way to get through all that logon stuff you have.

    What users :), I hear you though. It's not that bad. You can use the fast logon key ! that will get you past alot of the stuff you object seeing

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Tracker1 on Tue Jul 26 05:06:52 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Tracker1 to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 2022 05:16 pm

    On 7/25/22 05:22, DesotoFireflite wrote:
    IIRC, I was using PabloDraw, but Moebius should work to.

    LOL, i'm still using TheDraw. The only time I use PabloDraw is when
    I'm making *.MSG files. I've got Moebius loaded on the system, but I
    really don't like using it.

    Yeah, I don't even know if/where my reg'd copy of TheDraw went over the years... haven't touched it in forever. I remember, I used to often
    wind up saving, then tweaking the final output a bit to place the cursor exactly where I want it... usually saving block mode 79x23 for full screen... since so many display programs handled the end of line and wrapping slightly differently.

    I know what you mean. I don't think there is a absolute perfect program. No matter what I use, I still end up tweaking it. I'm to much of a perfectionest to settle for anything. For the most part, I'm happiest using TheDraw. I guess after 35+ years of this stuff, I still find the old ways the easiest and most friendly to use. LOL

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dave on Mon Jul 25 05:26:00 2022
    Dave wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Indeed. I've been a fan of the Bastard for a long time. Simon helped me survive the hell desk and then given me plenty of great... problem solving... ideas as a sysadmin. It seems appropriate to help keep the spirit alive.

    A couple of jobs ago, we had a clipboard with ACCOUNTS TO DELETE written in sharpie on the back. Walking around with that in the office, tapping it with
    a pen, was a great way to get from point A to point B without luser
    questions.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jul 26 06:32:41 2022
    On 7/26/22 04:06, DesotoFireflite wrote:

    I know what you mean. I don't think there is a absolute perfect
    program. No matter what I use, I still end up tweaking it. I'm to
    much of a perfectionest to settle for anything. For the most part,
    I'm happiest using TheDraw. I guess after 35+ years of this stuff,
    I still find the old ways the easiest and most friendly to use.

    I get it... I just haven't touched it in so long, often I find some old programs particularly hard after not using them for a long time... not
    to mention other things. I used to know RIPscrip codes like the back of
    my hand too... been too long since separated from touching a lot of this
    that I just feel out of touch in a lot of ways. Motivation is much
    harder to come by as I get older.
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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Tracker1 on Tue Jul 26 15:24:21 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Tracker1 to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jul 26 2022 08:32 am

    to mention other things. I used to know RIPscrip codes like the back of my hand too... been too long since separated from touching a lot of this that I just feel out of touch in a lot of ways. Motivation is much
    harder to come by as I get older.

    God, I hear you loud and clear. I wish I could do RIPscript. I've got the old RIP graphics program, and everytime I atempt to make a nice menu, I foul it all up by the time I put in all the mouse points and open text areas. That era just passed on by me very quick. I've always wanted to do full RIP on my Synchronet System, but always get to frustrated and give up. That's my old age talking, but it keeps me from doing a lot of things I like. I find my attention span getting shorter every year, with a lot more senior moments <BFG>

    On a good note, I have to give a big Thank You and a lot of credit to Rob, Eric, and Echicken, as they have helped me in more ways than one with my feeble attempts at coding, and learning the right way to do things.

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  • From Dave@VERT/BOFHNET to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jul 27 04:30:50 2022
    A couple of jobs ago, we had a clipboard with ACCOUNTS TO DELETE written in sharpie on the back. Walking around with that in the office, tapping it with a pen, was a great way to get from point A to point B without luser questions.

    ... Landru! Guide us!
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    That is my kind of thinking, I like it. It's often those little things that make all of the difference.
    I've taught a few academics valuable lessons in how to treat techs over the years. Usually with an audience. And the Helldesk has stories it passes down about me. I'm not even sure where half of it came from, but it sounds like me and memory is failing, so I mean, it might have happened. Maybe.

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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to MRO on Wed Jul 27 06:29:52 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 2022 02:29 pm

    i prefer thedraw and aciddraw. they are superior.

    Do those run command prompt without anything special? In newer Windows, that is.

    you dont even need pablo for .msg files. just use the conversion utility.

    Does PD even edit those right? I don't think it helped me with .msg files at all.

    also pablo puts that stupid ass sauce into everything.

    Agreed. I always have to vi that crap out.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Phigan on Wed Jul 27 12:55:35 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Phigan to MRO on Wed Jul 27 2022 08:29 am

    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: MRO to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jul 25 2022 02:29 pm

    i prefer thedraw and aciddraw. they are superior.

    Do those run command prompt without anything special? In newer Windows, that is.

    you can use dosbox or vdos [which is nice]


    you dont even need pablo for .msg files. just use the conversion utility.

    Does PD even edit those right? I don't think it helped me with .msg files at all.

    https://i.imgur.com/dTovuIo.png

    but i woudlnt recommend it


    also pablo puts that stupid ass sauce into everything.

    Agreed. I always have to vi that crap out.

    pablo draw is great for manually editing large text files with a lot of rows and columns. i used to do my hourly bbs list with it.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Phigan on Wed Jul 27 12:56:49 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Phigan to MRO on Wed Jul 27 2022 08:29 am

    you dont even need pablo for .msg files. just use the conversion utility.

    Does PD even edit those right? I don't think it helped me with .msg files at all.

    Yes: http://wiki.synchro.net/resource:ansi_editors#pablodraw

    also pablo puts that stupid ass sauce into everything.

    Agreed. I always have to vi that crap out.

    Synchronet strips/ignores SAUCE records in display files automatically and even uses the metadata at times. It's not stupid.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wed Jul 27 21:10:28 2022
    Re: Re: Black lines through ftelnet on web4 interface
    By: Digital Man to Phigan on Wed Jul 27 2022 02:56 pm

    Agreed. I always have to vi that crap out.

    Synchronet strips/ignores SAUCE records in display files automatically and even uses the metadata at times. It's not stupid.

    I don't like it and don't want it. I never liked sauce, and I was a huge
    fan of ansi art.

    I can't find a toggle for it in pablodraw.

    I don't want it going into my files, I don't care if one bbs software strips it out or that there's an eof in it.

    It's fine if ansi artists want to include it in their art packs; although it's **a bit redundant because they tag the files visually and also do .nfo's**.
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Dave on Sat Jul 30 17:58:58 2022
    On 2022 Jul 25 05:22:04, you wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

    Best of luck to you, guessing the BOFH is the old Bastard Operator
    From Hell usenet series that came out in the 1990s?

    Indeed. I've been a fan of the Bastard for a long time. Simon helped me survive the hell desk and then given me plenty of great... problem solving... ideas as a sysadmin. It seems appropriate to help keep the spirit alive.

    FWIW: the spirit is still live and well... BOfH is published on theregister on a regular basis... this one is the latest from this past friday...

    https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/29/bofh_2022_episode_14/

    there's links in there for all the previous editions, too...

    )\/(ark

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